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We know youre blessed because youre a pretty good guy, but once you see the true unmerited favor of God operating in your life you finally begin to understand how this thing is really supposed to work. How to share E2R, Copyright 2023 Religion runs on will power and speaks the language of Satan (Is 14:12-14). We obviously have very different views on our relationship with God. We, as Gentiles, were never under the law, unless you consider the Ten Commandments the law. When you say Keep these rules, heed these principles, do what youre told, and youll be acceptable to God. Nope. how will you explain the very words of JESUS himself in Matthew 5 : 18,19 and Matthew 19 : 18,19. The Gospel in Twenty Questions Make no mistake religion is rotten to the core. Its the misappropriation of proper interpretation (wishing to show), to think Jesus/God is separating [OT/NT] one from the other the Commands He refers to in the Gospels, Love God & love your neighbour Hes always pointing back to older & back to the newer because of dis-obedience. Jesus said, in John 17, that Gods word is truth, in 1 John 5, it says that the Spirit is truth. I attend a Southern Baptist Church, for now. Great Post brother! Jesus didnt suffer and die to establish religion. and even those who claim no religion. All rights reserved. There are many good social benefits to a good church, but religion isn't one of them. So be reconciled to God as God is reconciled to us all in Sons death. Instead of receiving the powers from Him who died to provide every good thing, a man of God kills himself trying to receive blessings from fasting. They are hounded by the dogs of law. Great stuff! How about those who say we should consider Christ who became nothing. There are increasing mental health challenges in every age group: 36% reported anxiety or depression in June 2020, compared to just 11% the previous year(Kaiser Family Foundation). Archived post. (For the previous point, it is talking more about modern day mistrust between religious and non religious people, not ancient wars). Organized Religion Matt Suber on Twitter: "The Religious Right will come to rue Something is intrinsically good if and only if it is Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Cookie Notice Religion needs to adapt and refashion itself to changing patterns, many emphasize. see the difference? Religion is based on a lie At the heart of religion is the belief that we can make ourselves good. The runner that was the Law is DONE WITH ME and can go sit down as Jesus takes off running with me in His hand. Yes, I believe meditation of cross and blood of Christ and resurrection will empower me more than knowing about religion. These are related statistics. I recommend reading Whos Your Daddy? you get it free when you subscribe to E2R and The Birthright by John Sheasby. What is the problem you have with that. God gave us relationships so that we might enjoy life, but religion prefers rules. The problem is it gets us no closer to God, only improves the flesh or makes you guilt ridden. Viewed in this light, decrease of church membership would not be concerning. Praises to our Lord. Is Wayne Alumbaugh telling people to change or pointing them in the opposite direction? I would be hesitant with the Grace factor. lifted up also is the Greek word airo meaning to lift up so what John 15:2 is actually saying is every branch that beareth not fruit is lifted up off the ground so it can bare fruit. religion By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Cults recruit people by offering a counterfeit form of acceptance and purpose, which is also how religion operates. Maybe not a literal death, but a death of joy, peace, unity and purpose found in corporately following Christ. The bad comes from organized religion and religious organizations. Despite a fall in religious membership, America continues to be an overwhelmingly faithful country and Americans are content with religions less significant role, which is unlikely to change in the foreseeable future. I just finished sharing these thoughts with a friend before I read this post. 2. But hopefully empty seats motivate us to reflect and make important changes. I love corporate worship, so the home church experience is lacking that piece for me. Update: Check out my new Grace Commentary. Religion is about man-made concepts and laws. The greatest of All Law is Love, Gods Type, as described in 1 Cor.13:4-7, and we can not do that as God has done and shown us by Son. Poll numbers could also be indicating a religious reorientation is taking place throughout the country. Surely, all have power to make choices [saved or unsaved]. According to the OED, the word originally meantto bind to religious vows, practices, or traditions. Pray for Brasil. In NYC we call the established but every famous spirit-filled pastors Christian mafia. I want to stay in the stream of Gods grace and faith, as I know this is where He has called me. So I want to thank God for you and the great work you are doing in His name. The finished work of Jesus caused something spectacular to happen! Is Forgiveness Something God Does orGives. Pure and genuine religion in the sight of God the Father means caring for orphans and widows in their distress and refusing to let the world corrupt you. TRUE that religion is robbing some of our precious brothers and sisters. Gadget Girl on Twitter WebWhy do some say that organized religion is actually a bad thing? violence, divorce, & marriage Jesus made [in the Newest Covenant] to the Laws of God older Covenants? At the heart of religion is the belief that we can make ourselves good. I will be like the Most High.. Reading this post has confirmed what I already suspected that much of what passes for respectable organized religion,including evangelical and charismatic Christianity,is no more than a racket with pimps and gangsters in charge.There seems to be very little difference between the Baptists,.methodists, Pentecostals ,Anglicans etc and the JWs Mormons,Seventh Day Adventists ,catholics, whom mainstream Christians love to hate.In fact,I sometimes think the more mainstream a group is the more dangerous they are Becoz they are more subtle i.e. Grace says, God helps you, but religion says, God helps those who help themselves.. See the difference? WebWhile religion is an extremely helpful institution to many, many people, organized religion breeds fear, suspicion, ignorance, bias, and superiority complexes that could kill. Now how many in and out of faith in the God of Creation are still clinging to the first? Wayne, failure and the compounding judgement of others can cause a brokenness in a person that is crippling. Maybe God trusts us so much that he is teaching us the truth outside the church so we can bring it in. Thanks for opening my eyes man. I think simplicity was what Jesus was teaching when He said we need to come to him like the children do. We are also told that if we believe that our father will do all of the things he says he will do for us according to the second covenant,he will cause us to love him and he will cause us to bear fruit unto life and he will cause us to reign in life. The bad comes from organized religion and religious organizations. Jesus gave of himself for the good of the world, for the good of others. Religion is for people whore afraid of going to hell. Organized Religion Thanks for your reply. If it were all a big meeting once a week as a community to meet, greet and discuss, no issue. James 1:27 NLT It would be better for all concerned, if you contend for the faith once delivered to the saints, than this, a different gospel. When He shows us how much He loves us and we receive healing that He provided on the cross, we want to shout it from the rooftop, not because God manipulates us into it, but because we are thankful and excited about His goodness and blessings that He bestows on us and wants to continue to bestow on us daily. Jesus came to display Gods love for us (you). Reply to Stephen Meek: they are one with Him in spirit-those He loves John 3:16: Jesus died for the whole world. My error: The law leads us to Christ. Hes keeping score. I will follow Jesus anywhere. Why Are Americans Losing Confidence in Organized Religion? Grace always existed until man decided he didnt want to be graded on Gods goodness, but on his own. Only they never get caught! A hastening of our societal decline will unfortunately continue as more and more parents cease teaching their children the word of God in favor of the philosophies of man(2 Timothy 4:3-4). Those needing a spiritual community may not experience the necessary outreach to draw them in. Change). Having followed your writings closely and profited with most of them I was rather surprised about this spiteful blog about Religion leaves me wondering specifically about couple of things among others, Religion means different things to different people, so lets begin with a definition. Well, Well, Well, My, My. Say it and do it. Even you would not believe some of the stuff that goes on in NYC churches by clearly anointed pastors. There is another thought that many shall continue to be spiritual without membership in anorganized religionmany may not belong, but will still believe. The Gallup poll was striking in its incremental character. Telling them they must change is not helpful and only worsens their condition. And I want to be conscious of his love alone not a religion that does not honour Christ. I would recommend to anyone with a clouded view of the Gospel to peer through the archive and bounce around the links and watch the simplicity of the Gospel of Grace who is Jesus unfold their truly is joy with Christ and reason to celebrate our union with Him. I was curious if you had any recommendations for a proper, grace-filled commentary on the epistles of John (1 John, 2 John, 3 John)? False churches that create rules God never required (such as celibacy) set up leaders for moral failure. 2 Now we know that Gods judgment against those who do such things is based on truth. I am new to this E2R but the little time I have been here, a lot have really changed in my entire way of my spiritual life. Send questions or comments to rajanzed@gmail.com or on Twitter at @rajanzed. Rules suck the life out of your marriage, your family, your church. They either are too busy attempting to make a living of doing as they think and drawing disability. Insanity is doing the same thing again and again expecting a different result. It is a pleasure to talk with those who understand when the heart to head [processing] needs fellowship in a variety of ways. I love your reply. Addicted to the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, I like that! How can we let go of what no longer serves our purpose and find innovative ideas to make tangible differences in peoples lives? Taketh away is a Greek word which is airo meaning the same thing in Luke 17:13 which says And they [lifted up] their voices. Are the law & Grace different or separate? Depression and anxiety cost the global economy $1 trillion a year in lost productivity (World Health Organization). I grew up without a father too. Until we are convinced of Gods gracious love for us, as creatures created to need love as much as food and air to breath, our flesh will seek and find a way to EARN it. And then there may be political implications also. Anything outside of what they believe is wrong is basically what they are doing and that kind of religion is what is turning people off. Is not religious law wholly different from the Law of God Jesus fulfilled? I say the grace we experience is an outflowing of Gods commitment to and love for us. I agree and have always said I hate religion, as it detracts from a personal relationship with God. The deeper I walk in grace (having my lens polished) the further and faster I run from religion. So that you may be certain in your mind, here are ten reasons why religion is bad for you. Hence, declining religious participation inevitably reduces those societal benefits. The only thing that can heal them is the unconditional love of God which is the power of the Gospel. Hi Josh, many people that comment on this site found their way here following the teachings of Joseph Prince, which I follow myself. Create a website or blog at WordPress.com, Is it Gods Will for You to Suffer (1 Peter4:19), Six Reasons Why Original Sin Cannot beTrue. A: A social media site once tried to develop a program Religion of Individualism.. And, as anyone who has ever lived in a lawless part of the world can tell you, it is far more liberating to live under a system of laws, even bad laws, than to live in a place with no laws at all. And what would you consider to be His Commandments? It stirred things up a bit when I shared that with a fellow church member at the time. Is there any greater sin than looking at the Savior who went to the greatest extremes to give you life and saying I must produce life in myself? Proven in the resurrected Son as High Priest for us to live new in. In my country its so rare to hear such good News. The Law supplies a standard too high for the flesh to attain, thus exposing our need for a Savior. America's Changing Religious Landscape | Pew Research Center Then religion comes and uses carrots and sticks as if the love of God comes with price tags. Organized religion wants blind trust. The Law God vs the laws of men? WebIf one is asking whether organized religion is intrinsically good or intrinsically bad, the answer is a resounding "neither." His live truly is unconditional! Amen thanks for this, there is so much information I can use when asked these exact questions about grace and religion. Anyone can be a follower of Jesus. I was raised in religion and always felt in my gut that something was wrong but I couldnt verbalized it and beside, everyone in the religion tells you that you are doing the right thing. Although the law is good, it is not good for you. Heart warming, encouraging truth. They also provide moral/ethical guidelines as to how we should treat each other. and I have given fake to eat in looking for self gain in past, and one day I got to eat my own fruit that I was passing out and got a mouthful of wax. Hahahaha! The decline in religious membership is a problem, especially now. He loves you no matter what you do. These include the events of creation, various miracles performed by a divine being, and contemporary interaction between God and followers, such as through prayer. I always tell people he healed you or gave you that blessing because he loves you. WebIs religion good for us? Religious texts outline events which are not supported by our current understanding of the universe. I so often feel all alone in these revelations. You cant help but smile and thank God in your heart. Where do you get these words from? Should religion be considered good if it has inspired magnificent art but enslaved millions? Paul was attempting to keep true believers in Yshua (Jesus) from being defiled by the oral rules How can believers today, fully realize the error Paul is pointing to in Galatians 5 & many other Newest Covenant passages unless we familiarize ourselves in the differences in law? Next weeks topic: Is a child born as atheist or a believer? I am also so blessed by this site and encouraged by the number of people who want to know more about these topics. Bryan Smith, lead pastor, Summit Christian Church, Sparks. Stephen, it seems you are saying there is Gods law and then there is something different mans law, which is religion. That is what is being fought to this day, to not see this new life in the risen Christ me, to be defeated of me, As Father in Son is waiting s=to this very second for the last one to come t belief and end all this mess we all got born in here on earth, thanks to the curse in from lucifer theough Adam and Eve that took part of in unbelief to God, Today to turn around and tell God personally between you and God you believe and be set free, and be content in all things good or bad that happen to thee, Thank you for your service in belief to God, by Son , the way, the truth and the new life in his risen life to be received by Father only and then do by Father leading in Spirit and truth. IMO most churches preach a mixture of grace and law. These books seem to at first glance indicate some sort of conditions with salvation (1 John 3 :1-10, 1 John 2: 3-6 , 1 John 2 :19, etc. We asked our panel: Is declining religious membership good or bad for the country? In thinking about what you wrote is it any surprise that the truth of grace had to come outside of the United States who has become so full of laws that you almost need a permit for breathing,which the government is trying to impose as it is. The biggest idol is the one called Self. While religiosity, measured by institutionalized worship attendance, may have declined, American people remain highly religious, as measured by their personal acceptance of faith. As in, now we separate the Law from Grace__. A place to post an opinion you accept may be flawed, in an effort to understand other perspectives on the issue. Faith Forum is a weekly dialogue on religion produced by religious statesman Rajan Zed. and our It means look to Jesus to live His life in you. Grace is the new system, you say, then help me understand also, of the potential to create pretext out of context to fit a possible agenda vs truth? It makes you feel cheep and stupid but it claims to be your friend. Thanks, Paul! In other words, I may have five committed members in the community today where I once had 10 who were indifferent.